Sinixta: Hi Ras Kass, it's Sinixta from Murder Dog Magazine Radio FMR, UGS Radio. How are you?
Ras Kass: Yeah, yeah. What's up? You know, happy to be back ... back in Europe, back in France ... you know, just period. Happy to be here.
Sinixta: Okay, good come back, back [inaudible 00:00:41] tell us about your roots in LA, especially Watts how was to grew up in Watts?
Ras Kass: You know, Watts is the east side. You know, Cam, the rapper Cam is from Watts. Jay Rock, who's down with Kendrick Lamar, he's from Watts. We've had a little bit of representation in the music and rap. Watts is the east side. Some people kind of say like Watts, east side maybe is like the ghetto-ist, you know what I'm saying? So, Watts has a reputation for being pretty east-y ghetto. You know, tough neighborhoods, but me, I loved it man. It's my culture. I didn't realize maybe how rough it was because I lived in it and went to school in it. After school, I played in it. I grew up with the people in my neighborhood and even neighboring neighborhoods. We knew each other and we had a good time. I'm really very fortunate to have that balance of growing up in Watts and still being able to live in Carson. So I had both sides, it was nice where my parents lived and rough where I socialized, where I grew up in. It was dope.
Sinixta: Watts Towers was made by a French guy, right?
Ras Kass: Hmm?
Sinixta: Watts Towers ...
Ras Kass: Watts Towers, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ...
Sinixta: Made by a french guy, a crazy man.
Ras Kass: Yeah man. I think that was after the Watts riots, so the French guy went and tried to show some love. Hey, man the French guys gave us the Statue of Liberty too, so shit ... Watts Tower, Statue of Liberty. Thank you. Merci.
Sinixta: We see Watts a lot of about blood and crip situation and all that, also '92 riots.
Ras Kass: Right.
Sinixta: What's your perspective of all that?
Ras Kass: Like I said, Watts is a ...
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:02:49]
Ras Kass: Huh?
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:02:55]
Ras Kass: You know, things are always what they are man. We tend to say like the 80's, late to mid 80's early 90's was like when gangbangin' ... to us, a lot of my homeboys said too that gangbangin' was at a all time high in L.A., which is different now. Gangbangin' has literally spread across the world. You got people in New York and New Orleans and ...
Sinixta: Yeah at a time Bloods and Crips was local.
Ras Kass: Yeah that was only ...
Sinixta: And after it went worldwide ...
Ras Kass: Yeah, worldwide. It's probably worse now but ...
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:03:37] came from the Panthers first.
Ras Kass: Started from the Panthers and morphed ...
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:03:42] after ...
Ras Kass: Right, mm-hmm (affirmative) and then evolved into what it evolved ... Same thing with the Chicago gangs too. They started from pro-black stuff and then kind of morphed into ... I guess probably when drugs and ...
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:03:56]
Ras Kass: Once money got involved, things get fucked up ... but yeah man, my perspective is just ... it is what it is. I talk about it, I refer to it in my music to a certain degree. I don't promote it, but I don't judge people because I got homeboys who grew up and did certain shit. I got some friends that got out of it, I got some friends that got caught up in it.
Sinixta: As you say that, "we don't do gangster rap, we do reality rap."
Ras Kass: Right. Exactly, exactly.
Sinixta: Report what you see.
Ras Kass: Yeah report it. I try to talk about what I see, what I've been through ...
Sinixta: You've got some people like [inaudible 00:04:32] expose the fact, but it is a different perspective.
Ras Kass: Right, mm-hmm (affirmative).
Sinixta: You was, at first a dancer, like Divine Styler?
Ras Kass: Yeah. Well ... we were younger, so me and my friends ... Divine Styler had Scheme Team, which was all ... you know, Brother and Chameleon and Kalani and they were older than us. We were young ... but yeah, we called it housin'. I don't know why we did, but in LA we called it housin'. It's like break dancing, but we called it housin'. So yeah, I was a break dancer and then most of my friends were gang members, but the one thing that brought us all together was rap music, graffiti, DJing, dancing, housin' and rapping. All these kids from different neighborhoods started meeting because that's what we had in common, so if it wasn't for the dancing, I would have never met a lot of my friends and then I probably would have never really put myself or got in a position to begin to be an emcee. It's that journey, definitely a part of my journey.
Sinixta: Do you remember your first hip-hop song you heard in your life?
Ras Kass: Mm-mmm (negative) because hip-hop was already around before me, I didn't pay that much attention.
Sinixta: You had big brothers too?
Ras Kass: No, no, no, no. I had sisters.
Sinixta: Discovered by yourself?
Ras Kass: Yeah and my friends, hanging around my friends. [crosstalk 00:06:07] even going to family reunions in Louisiana and then my cousins playing shit, but nah. I was kinda late really to the music. I was kinda more ... I liked to be in the streets with my friends doing dumb shit. We was going to the park and flip like the G dudes with ... it's almost like parkour. Motherfuckers was in the streets flipping off of buildings and shit. No, for real, like houses and stuff. That was more interesting than music for me. It was like, who could walk on your hands the furthest, who could do gymnastics in the middle of the street? There is no mat, so people doing gymnastics down the street. That was what I was into, so I was late to the music. I was into the activities of the neighborhood, which were fun as shit and it kept you in shape now that I think about it.
Sinixta: As a freestyle you was a [inaudible 00:07:07] lyricist. Who was your ... [inaudible 00:07:14] I think of Chuck D or Rakim ...
Ras Kass: Oh, my influences? Yeah.
Sinixta: Scarface, lyricist [crosstalk 00:07:17]
Ras Kass: Yeah yeah yeah, all those influenced me. Rakim definitely. I mean, really all of them period. Once I got into it, even if the music was old, I went back to listen and understand because I really fell in love with it once I fell in love with it. I think for me ... I always say who made me want to be a rapper was KRS-One because it was closer to what I ... you know, the kind of personality, the way I saw the world. KRS-One was doing history and doing street shit. So, he was doing Criminal Minded ...
Sinixta: Scott La Rock.
Ras Kass: Right, so he's my favorite.
Sinixta: On top.
Ras Kass: Yeah, KRS-One. But all everybody influenced me, Scarface, Ice Cube, Tupac, Nas, Biggie. A lot of ... Brand Nubian, everybody. I loved it all.
Sinixta: First single was Remain Anonymous. Can you tell me about this track?
Ras Kass: Really it was just ... I use to buy records ... I wanted to be a rapper, so I would go buy like ... digging in the crates trying to find ... I found this little part on the record, this bass line. I had a vinyl that I bought that had break beats on it. It was different break beats it would play for a minute or something like that, you know, breakbeat vinyl. I played that break beat and played that loop and I don't know why, I just thought it was dope. Then I wrote the record. I forgot ... maybe Vooodu put chord like ... string ...
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:09:20]
Ras Kass: Voice yeah, but basically it was just this idea I had, I wrote it. I was a, obviously, Wu-Tang fan, and I love that "you don't know me, you don't know my style", so Remain Anonymous for me, that was the perfect hook. Like, "you don't know me and you don't know how dope I am", so that's what I did, man. I just went in and I tried to ... you only get one chance to make a first impression, so that was my one chance. I tried to make a record that was explaining like, I'm dope, I'm from the west coast, I'm a lyricist. Luckily for me, somebody cared.
Sinixta: You did [inaudible 00:10:00] also.
Ras Kass: That was later. That was later, yeah. That was probably like a year later.
Sinixta: Tell us about your first album, Soul on Ice was in reference to Eldridge Cleaver [crosstalk 00:10:15] and especially your track Nature of the Threat. It's when you heard first time Rakim Allah, in fact you have this idea of this song, right? Because he said "I'm God" and you was like "What he say?"
Ras Kass: Yeah, what was he saying? Yeah.
Sinixta: You knew after the Five-Percenter's Nation of God and Earth and he made you know the perspective of this song.
Ras Kass: Well ... Rakim was one part of it. We didn't have no big Five-Percent or Nation of Islam.
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:10:55] Five-Percenter?
Ras Kass: Yeah. Well ... he was, not me. I'm from ... [crosstalk 00:11:03]
Sinixta: Clarence 13X.
Ras Kass: Yeah, Clarence 13X. Yeah exactly. When I heard Rakim say that, that fucked my head up as a kid. I'm like, "What?" but the record was so dope, I was like ... I thought maybe it was like New York slang. I don't know I thought he said "Goh" G-O-H or G-O-J. I didn't know, but as I was doing research, Nature of the Threat was really a way for me ... I was trying to understand racism, I was trying to understand why the world is the way the world is. So, Rakim is a part of that just as much as KRS-One is a part of that, just as much as Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, anybody, Rosa Parks. My quest to understand why do people hate people because of skin, and why me being ... why's my name John Richard Austin, why does my mother speak French? Why? ... the song really was about me trying to figure out why I am here in LA when theoretically I should be in Africa.
Apollo: Be sausage in my gumbo.
Ras Kass: He was actually referring to the way ... Apollo just walked in the building, you know what it is. Detroit motherfucker.
Sinixta: Remind me of tack, Do You Believe of MC Ren. Remember this track? Do You Believe.
Ras Kass: Do You Believe?
Sinixta: When he sample Minister Louis Farrakhan and he said "do you believe?" ... "you have believe false concepts" ... No?
Ras Kass: I don't remember it.
Sinixta: You don't remember this track? It was '93.
Ras Kass: '93? Nah, I don't remember.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:12:52] in fact, [inaudible 00:12:53] because a lot of people don't know that.
Ras Kass: Oh, you talking bout ... you mean Nature the Threat? [crosstalk 00:13:00] Yeah, of course.
Sinixta: I think a lot about that because a lot of people don't know what Christmas [crosstalk 00:13:10] The pope who wanted to kill the [inaudible 00:13:12] and kill the black people who wasn't Christianity. The people don't know about that. That's why a lot of educated know about that as they say X-Mas.
Ras Kass: Right, X-Mas.
Sinixta: Is this why your tape you say ChristMESS.
Ras Kass: Right, exactly yeah. I flipped it, I say ChristMESS. Yeah.
Sinixta: Yeah.
Ras Kass: Yeah.
Sinixta: Do you influence by you also by X-Clan or ... [crosstalk 00:13:42]
Ras Kass: Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Brother J is an incredible lyricist. I'm lucky to say I'm acquainted with him. I respect him and I've spoken to him. He's a great dude. Yeah man ... Lakim Shabazz, there's so many, Paris ...
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:14:02]
Ras Kass: Yeah man, so many people ... The Coup
Sinixta: Yeah. Boots Riley.
Ras Kass: Yeah, Boots. Yeah. There's a lot of people that were trying to give information. Everybody doesn't have to agree about the stance. Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Black Star, you know everybody has ... we all reach ... we're all learning stuff and trying to tell our ... what we ... at least how we perceive it. I appreciate everybody, man. I may not come from a Five-Percent Nation or the Nation of Islam, I don't come from Christian stand point anymore, I don't come from a Muslim stand point anymore.
Sinixta: Moorish? [crosstalk 00:14:40]
Ras Kass: To a certain degree. Maybe more Moorish. Maybe closer to [crosstalk 00:14:47]
Sinixta: A lot of people don't know the black masons [inaudible 00:14:49] they take the first knowledge of the Egypt, of [inaudible 00:14:53] and God and Egypt because a lot of Freemasonry, white Freemasonry stole ... [crosstalk 00:15:00]
Ras Kass: Yeah they took it from there and that's really what it was is Egyptian mystery schools. So, the science and ... knowledge is knowledge man and knowledge ... I think knowledge is for everyone. I think it only becomes weird when you get the knowledge ... just like if I know how to make fire but I make the fire and burn your house down because I don't like you. It's not that the fire is bad, I just did the wrong thing with the fire. I coulda taught you how to cook food, or make a light so you could see, you know? But I'll take it and burn you, then that ... same thing with even Freemasonry ... Shriners, you know whatever European Freemasonry, there's nothing wrong with having the knowledge, I just think a lot of the time people use science in a fucked up way. They use it to benefit just themselves and they like to keep other people ignorant so they can control them. That's the world, so it's not just whit people that do it, black people do it too, whatever everybody does it.
Sinixta: Even your name was influenced through [inaudible 00:16:15] emperor, Ras Kassa.
Ras Kass: Mm-hmm (affirmative) Ethiopian, yeah. Ras Kassa.
Sinixta: It [inaudible 00:16:21]
Ras Kass: Mm-hmm (affirmative) Right, yup.
Sinixta: Do you read a lot about Isis Papers like Frances Cress.
Ras Kass: I read it. Yeah, I definitely read the Isis Papers, Frances Cress Welsing.
Sinixta: Real knowledge.
Ras Kass: Yeah, she ... great, great book. I just bought a new book that I'm excited to read. It's "All The Lies My Teacher Told Me" or something like that. That's this new book, but I always say Isis Papers, They Came Before Columbus. I forgot who wrote the [crosstalk 00:16:58]
Sinixta: [Akira Madabuke 00:16:58]
Ras Kass: Yeah, Yeah. [crosstalk 00:17:02]
Sinixta: [Reno Kurashide 00:17:02]
Ras Kass: Mm-hmm (affirmative) you know your shit too, man.
Sinixta: [Indis Kermidkesh 00:17:05]
Ras Kass: Yeah man, there's also "People's History of America" by Howard Zinn. He was Harvard history professor. He just died recently, white man. Great book, incredible, just knowledge. He's taken the knowledge and not being a hater ... and this is a older white guy just giving good information, so yeah. I always tell people ... sometimes people feel like if it comes from ... where information comes from means it's true or not. So, some people might look at me and not want to take the information and sometimes I can say ... I tell people lot of times, I say, "Go to college. Take anthropology, physical anthropology cultural anthropology, linguistics, history and specific histories one by one and I'm not gonna sound as crazy as you trying to make me sound. You're gonna find this out, you're gonna pay a university to find out that I'm not lying to you." That's why it's good ... I like Howard Zinn because he's a great place to start, where he's an academic teacher, professor, and he's a white guy. So, he doesn't have anything to gain by saying these things or pointing these things out. So yeah, that's what it's about man, each one teach one, honestly.
Sinixta: Each one, teach one, reach one.
Ras Kass: Yeah man.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:18:31] also was a great singer, spoke like ... make music into it. Was not only a poet ... you got [inaudible 00:18:43].
Ras Kass: Yeah.
Sinixta: We got long list of books read.
Ras Kass: Yeah, very true.
Sinixta: Also, off of the track Ordo Abchao, you talk bout the Illuminati. A lot of people don't know about the Illuminati. They know ... it's a hype now. You talk about Illuminati. But way before you talk about that.
Ras Kass: Right. Oh yeah, I like the fact [crosstalk 00:19:14] I said it in the Apollo Brown album, I think I said something about, "I was talking about Illuminati and you was pissing in your diaper" or something like ... I was talking about that 20 years ago ...
Sinixta: You was talking about New World Order.
Ras Kass: Yeah, yeah long time ago.
Sinixta: Way before ...
Ras Kass: Yeah. Definitely ... what's his name, the other good book ... they killed him ... William Cooper. What's William Cooper's book? William Cooper's book is ... fuck I can't think of the book, but anyway ... Yeah.
Sinixta: Anyway, also the production was done by Vooodu.
Ras Kass: Yeah Vooodu, yep.
Sinixta: On his album, Battlecat also on one track.
Ras Kass: Yep.
Sinixta: You produce also some tracks too?
Ras Kass: Yeah [crosstalk 00:20:05] It used to just be ... it was three of us. It was me, Vooodu, and Bird. Then, the crew fell apart. Battlecat was our big homie, and then Wino should've been on the first album.
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:20:21]
Ras Kass: Yeah, Battlecat and then Wino-
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:20:25] Pac, Spice 1 ...
Ras Kass: Exactly. Producer ... Yeah. I just couldn't ... He got busy, but he should've been on the first album. Wino should've been on the first album and ... you just reminded me something, I've got to put him on ... because this is going to be the 20th anniversary of it.
Sinixta: Are you in contact with Vooodu now, or he stopped producing?
Ras Kass: Who?
Sinixta: Vooodu?
Ras Kass: I don't know. I haven't spoken to him since basically back then. [crosstalk 00:20:52] Yeah, we were kids, man and money ... When money happens, people ... you know. People got weird. I left. Every ten years, I see Bird maybe. That's it.
Sinixta: Mm-hmm (affirmative). On the Rasassination album, you got RZA, Twista [inaudible 00:21:17] Mack 10 ...
Ras Kass: Yeah.
Sinixta: You [inaudible 00:21:24]. Tell us about this album.
Ras Kass: You know, man. I just felt blessed, man. After my first album ... I mean ...
Sinixta: You [inaudible 00:21:39]
Ras Kass: Well, it gave me a chance and I'd earned something that a lot of people wish they could get and that's getting one album out, putting out my first album. By then, I'm starting to meet people and it was dope. You know, Dr. Dre would have me come through and ... RZA. I met RZA and he was like, "You dope" and I was like, "Shit. Thank you." They genuinely believed in me and wanted to help me make the best album I could, so Dr. Dre did that for me and RZA, Easy Moe Bee [crosstalk 00:22:13], Kurupt ...
Sinixta: Yeah.
Ras Kass: Yeah, every ... A lot of people came there, came in and just wanted me to make the best album I could and I'm very thankful for it, man. That was a great moment for me, I felt like we made a really good album. I loved Soul on Ice and I loved Rasassination, but I had more resources, so I could mix them better. The songs, you could hear everything, the levels were good. My man [inaudible 00:22:40] who was mixing for Dr. Dre, he was mixing my records, so my records sounded ... where you could play them and you understood stuff. We didn't have all the resources before this time, so I felt good. Then, my homeboy Flip because he helped me on the first album.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:22:57]
Ras Kass: Yeah, we never released it. Yeah, they fucked that up. They gotta fuck up quite a few things, so that goes without saying.
Sinixta: You got the group also, The Four Horsemen with Canibus, Killah Priest and Kurupt.
Ras Kass: Yeah.
Sinixta: Tell us about this album. This cover is crazy. The cover is crazy.
Ras Kass: Yeah, man. We did some songs around ... early, like 2001 and then somehow they leaked and we did some more fucking records and ... I think right now everybody's very ... You know, Kurupt's busy doing what he's doing, Priest got a new album out. We're all friends, man. Especially me and Killah Priest and me and Kurupt, you know that's my brothers, so ... Sometimes other things pop up and you can't ... it's hard to keep a group together because everybody has their own agendas and they're busy and whatever. I mean, it's all good. We got like seven, eight songs that I'll probably ... it's up to them, but you know I think we should just put it out ... or we may ... I'm thinking about adding a member to the group and then maybe revamping this thing, but we'll see what happens. It's really up to them, but we got some ill shit. One way or another, if it gets too old, I'm a just let it go for free. I wouldn't try to sell the shit, but we gonna see what happens.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:24:39] album Institutionalized, one, two. Institutionalized.
Ras Kass: Yeah, Institutionalized. Yep.
Sinixta: On the album, you got [inaudible 00:24:49]
Ras Kass: Yes, doing the outro.
Sinixta: The song was crazy Wright where ... [inaudible 00:24:55]
Ras Kass:Wright Where I Left Off. Yeah, the homonyms. Yeah. That's one of my favorite songs, I'm glad you picked that. Most people never even think of that record, but I think that's one of the illest records, like lyrically I think that shit is dope.
Sinixta: You've got a track, [inaudible 00:25:14] you was first, I think, to sample L.A. Is My Lady by Frank Sinatra.
Ras Kass: Oh, yeah. I am. I'm sure I am. Yeah.
Sinixta: I was loving this track, Quincy Jones production ...
Ras Kass: Right.
Sinixta: 1984. It's crazy you make that because a lot of people don't know about this track.
Ras Kass: Right.
Sinixta: A lot of people know New York, New York ...
Ras Kass: But they don't know L.A. Is My Lady.
Sinixta: They don't know about L.A. Is My Lady.
Ras Kass: I know.
Sinixta: It's so smooth, so real.
Ras Kass: Yeah, man. I love that song.
Sinixta: It's crazy.
Ras Kass: L.A. Is My Lady. Yeah, that's a great record.
Sinixta: You got also with Mistah F.A.B.
Ras Kass: Mm-hmm (affirmative) [crosstalk 00:25:47] Yeah, that's all family. That's all homies, yeah.
Sinixta: So, after that, Barmageddon.
Ras Kass: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Barmageddon [crosstalk 00:25:56]. Yeah, Barmageddon is the last solo album I did. I think I did A.D.I.D.A.S. before that and then we did Barmageddon. Barmageddon has quite a few people on there, Talib Kweli, Sick Jacken, MK Asante, [crosstalk 00:26:13] all the family, the team, man. I'm blessed to say I got a lot of homeboys that are dope emcees, so we try to just make the project, so yeah. The Barmageddon, I'm very proud of and after Barmageddon, me and Apollo stepped into getting this album done, so we knocked out Blasphemy.
Sinixta: Yeah. Right now. Just before you got [inaudible 00:26:39] project [inaudible 00:26:42] and now we got Blasphemy album with Apollo Brown. [inaudible 00:26:47] a long time?
Ras Kass: We were aquatinted.
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:26:51] to Detroit rap for a long time, yeah?
Ras Kass: We all know each other. You gotta think, like on ... I don't think Royce is on Barmageddon, but Royce 5'9 is on ... shit he's on a gang of shit. He's on like three different projects. All of us have known each other period. Eminem, Xzibit, [inaudible 00:27:18] me, whatever. All of us have known each other. I knew Eminem before he had a record deal. The Detroit, L.A. thing ...
Sinixta: There's a lot of talent in Detroit. [crosstalk 00:27:28]
Ras Kass: Definitely. We all ... My homeboy Hex, you know what I'm saying, Hex Murda. It's a lot of family back there.
Sinixta: You've got a How To Kill God tack, tell us about this [inaudible 00:27:42] what was the meaning?
Ras Kass: The meaning? You know what, the cool thing is I pretty much explain it at the beginning. I say, "This is how to kill God. Holocaust, crusade, Zionism, jihad." What I'm saying is that God makes everything, God makes black, white, muslim, jew, gentile ... you understand what I'm saying? Gay, straight, whatever, boy, girl ... So, if you got a God that tells you you should hate somebody because of they race or what they believe, I think that's killing God because God created us all. If I'm part of God's creation, why would you want to hurt me? That's really what How To Kill God is about. Kind of taking it from the religious standpoint and saying, "If God is love and God made us all, isn't it killing God every time ... if you rape some girl, if you ... anything, fuck somebody up, seal from you ... "Why hurt God's creation?" is really what the song is about.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:28:57]
Ras Kass: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:28:59]
Ras Kass: [inaudible 00:29:04]
Sinixta: Got some tracks. Got [inaudible 00:29:09] in fact, a lot of the industry now got no substance. It's so weak. Also, the industry want to feminize a lot of rappers.
Ras Kass: Yeah they are feminizing us.
Sinixta: I don't have disrespect for gay shit, but ...
Ras Kass: Yeah, I understand what you saying.
Sinixta: You know what I'm saying?
Ras Kass: I'm not anti-gay. I'm just ... I'm a man, so I think men should just [crosstalk 00:29:36]
Sinixta: It's just a fact.
Ras Kass: Yeah and I think that's what they want, they want ...
Sinixta: The industry wants to put asleep.
Ras Kass: The industry wants black men ... especially black men, they don't want us to stand up and be men ... instead of killing you, if they can make you suck a dick, you still are no threat. You're not a man. No disrespect, but I think that's their agenda.
Sinixta:I think it's a lot of industry who are [inaudible 00:30:05] every town, the people who got no substance, or no ... especially now ... who got no knowledge ... L.A. a lot of people think about the mainstream.
Ras Kass: Right.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:30:20] they think about candy rap, they don't think about K-Rino, you know?
Ras Kass: Yeah.
Sinixta: K-Rino is a great lyricist.
Ras Kass: Right. Right.
Sinixta: Or [inaudible 00:30:31]
Ras Kass: Yeah.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:30:38] That's why we at Murder Dog, we try to present the real shit.
Ras Kass: [inaudible 00:30:45] thank you.
Sinixta: No holds barred.
Ras Kass: No holds barred.
Sinixta: [crosstalk 00:30:48]
Ras Kass: Yeah, man. We need the real shit. I appreciate it.
Sinixta: Have you a last message to say to people?
Ras Kass: Naw. Everything we talked ... we covered it, man. The only thing I will say is, if you want real shit, you gotta support it. That's the only way to keep financing it. I know these fellas probably ready for us to go, so we are gonna rock and roll. We about ready.
Sinixta: That's what I wanted to ask.
Ras Kass: Yeah, yeah we ready.
Sinixta: Just ... I have a last question. It's ... Where was the church where you made the ...
Ras Kass: Oh, the videos?
Sinixta: Yeah, the videos. It's Detroit?
Ras Kass: Yeah, that's all ...
Sinixta: Sure it was Detroit.
Ras Kass: Yeah, yeah. Me and Apollo, we out [crosstalk 00:31:32] ... Yeah and Jay Brown.
Sinixta: It's filmed crazy.
Ras Kass: Oh, yeah. Detroit is [crosstalk 00:31:36]
Sinixta: It's why you understand you got Acid Rap or Esham or all that or ...
Ras Kass: Right.
Sinixta: Out of crazy.
Ras Kass: Because it's rough out there, man. Detroit is a real ... That city real, man.
Sinixta: [inaudible 00:31:47] with Ras Kass.
Ras Kass: Thank you. Salute.
Sinixta: Salute.
Ras Kass: Thank you.
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